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EeeThree · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 108

even a year ago, for Marius Gracchus, there was alot more political unity with diffrent parties. or even just one person or another manipulating others into workign for them

(sorry Julius Flavus., but Marius PLAYED you)

from the North, where me and Phil are CONSTNATLY scheming and plotting.. it seem sas if its not that the senate are affraid to work with each other, but rather, they just seem affraid to act at all. Tets the only one really doing anything, and I respect him for that.

Although I DO think he needs a secretary who can translate Phils big propsoals into simple Tet-speak.
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JayMichaelBecker · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 76 Location: Olympia, Washington

HAHA, the secretary isn't a bad idea.

I agree too with the thought that the senators are rather afraid to act, rather than simply not cooperating. Many of them seem to be afraid to form an opinion that is actually an opinion on things as simple as answering the question 'how are you'.
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bovine · Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 19 Location: Seattle, Washington

"how are you"? Looks like a trick question to me!
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EeeThree · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 108

I really dread the day Val, Lucius Verus, and Lucius Carus come to the senate.....

Politically, the 3 of us are allied, even if as soldiers, politics arent our focus. We're all brutal, no nonsense, and beleive that to waste words on niecities is a waste of time... and we all want to break Tets nose, or worse.. lol. in short... we're barbarians. Excellent for military command, but BOY would we shake up the senate.
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Pkh42987 · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 34

Well, on the subject of the urban cohortes, can you really blame the treasury for not wanting to assume the responsibility of every private force that's created by a family? Just recently the treasury took over II Vitellia a legion that was created for Hispania and now their urban volunteers too? How about we just disband them? lol Now, I love the Tullians, always have and will, but the treasury can't afford too many ore men.

And on the subject of the Senate... AMEN. I really think my next PC is going to be political. I'm going to make it a point to have as little military experience as possible.

And as far as co-operation, I know I've been plotting with certain PC's... ish.
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JOM · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 151

As I have said over and over again... a single player character should switch between political and military roles during the course of a career!

But everyone is still stuck in the old "career track" mode, it seems... Mad

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EeeThree · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 108

the problem with disbanding these volunteer cohorts as you suggested is that it leaves the cities in question, which are a fair size, without any police forces at all. no defenses within the city, no means of maintaining order. were they villages, sure, but these are full sized cities.
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JayMichaelBecker · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 76 Location: Olympia, Washington

If they were scaled down a bit and placed under the Imperial Regions Budget, OR paid for out of the provincial budgets for those provinces OR not even scaled down but still paid for outside of the IT... it wouldnt be an issue. The IT doesn't pay for any other police force outside the city of Rome.
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Pkh42987 · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 34

Yes, well I'm going to have to actually try that advice. LoL I meant to be mostly political with this one. Woops.

And on the disbanding subject... the legions can very well police the cities. It won't be as socially acceptable, but it's done everywhere else.
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EeeThree · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 108

Problem is if the legions are policing the cities, then they arent defending the boarders and the villages that will then be getting raided and destroyed in regions like Gothia, where we still hav ehostile enemies beyond our boarders. Our legions need to be at the front, not in the cities.
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JayMichaelBecker · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 76 Location: Olympia, Washington

The nice thing about the three cities that the cohortes in question would be protecting is they are all on the Rhine. Any of those legions up there SHOULD be in and around those cities because the Rhine there IS the border. The new Gothic lands don't come near those three cities, and so the legions in Belgica shouldn't be on any front BUT the Rhine. I feel.
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Florianus · Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 32 Location: Sydney, Australia

Well think about this, we have 6 useless consular legions with 34,170 men which take alot out of the Imperial budget. (something from the old days of the game, that we had to give politicians military experience, back when we used to seperate politics and the military)

Now just imagine we didnt have 6 consular legions. Thats a shitload of money which could be spent on Imperial Law Enforcement and Auxilia for the major cities and provinces where there are no legions.
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JayMichaelBecker · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 76 Location: Olympia, Washington

I like the days before Consular legions. That's when I had R. fortunus Julianus help me kick some celtiberian butt in Hispania... before Consular legions.

Let's get rid of Consular legions. With the blur of politics and military, we don't need them. Besides, it's better for paranoid emperors that influential politicians dont have specific legions under their control. Razz

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EeeThree · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 108

Actualy... thats an amazingly good idea. Although prehaps rahter than simply disbanding the consulars.. maybe reduce them to individual cohortes and distribute them among the major cities for policing duty? THat way we dont simply trash these, and then have to fund hte raising of new forces.

Does anyone knwo the specifics of cost? Would the consulars turned into an equivalent size of indvidiual corhotes, actualy be cheaper than the consular legions? If so, then that money could be used ot fund the urban cohorts in belgica and germania as well as the newly restructued ones.

And phil.. I know I screwed up cohort SOMEWHERE in here. I'm tired... so go suck on a bottle of vodka. lol
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Wra7hofAchilles · Deity Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 142 Location: Chicago, IL

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